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	<title>Comments on: Does science fiction have a social function?</title>
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	<description>Science fiction, science fact, and all that's in between ...</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Raven</title>
		<link>http://www.velcro-city.co.uk/does-science-fiction-have-a-social-function/comment-page-1/#comment-155231</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And reducing the genre to Gernsback&#039;s very limited definition is an insult of equal measure, not to mention staggeringly myopic. I think we just have to agree that we read science fiction for very different reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And reducing the genre to Gernsback&#8217;s very limited definition is an insult of equal measure, not to mention staggeringly myopic. I think we just have to agree that we read science fiction for very different reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: psikeyhackr</title>
		<link>http://www.velcro-city.co.uk/does-science-fiction-have-a-social-function/comment-page-1/#comment-155223</link>
		<dc:creator>psikeyhackr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 03:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>{{{ The establishment of science fiction as a field separate from other types of fiction dates from April 1926, when American writer and publisher Hugo Gernsback published the initial issue of Amazing Stories, the first English-language science-fiction magazine. Gernsback believed that fiction could be a medium for disseminating scientific information and encouraging young would-be scientists, so he wrote and published stories with this purpose in mind. An early example of his writing, Ralph 124C41+, was serialized in his popular science magazine Modern Electrics in 1911. When Gernsback brought out Amazing Stories in 1926, he named the new genre scientifiction, explaining, &lt;b&gt;&#039;By </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>{{{ The establishment of science fiction as a field separate from other types of fiction dates from April 1926, when American writer and publisher Hugo Gernsback published the initial issue of Amazing Stories, the first English-language science-fiction magazine. Gernsback believed that fiction could be a medium for disseminating scientific information and encouraging young would-be scientists, so he wrote and published stories with this purpose in mind. An early example of his writing, Ralph 124C41+, was serialized in his popular science magazine Modern Electrics in 1911. When Gernsback brought out Amazing Stories in 1926, he named the new genre scientifiction, explaining, <b>&#8216;By</b></p>
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		<title>By: psikeyhackr</title>
		<link>http://www.velcro-city.co.uk/does-science-fiction-have-a-social-function/comment-page-1/#comment-154815</link>
		<dc:creator>psikeyhackr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>{{{  but there has to be a balance; if I want to learn economics, I go read an economics textbook.  }}}

You think the textbooks have balance?  LOL

The science in the sci-fi books was better in that it put things in perspective.  The story painted the BIG PICTURE and showed where the science and technology fit within that picture.  The science books did not do that.  They went into details about a particular subject far more than the SF book did but it was like knowing how to make a screw and not knowing where it fit into the machine. 

The same seems to go for economics though.  You can search all of the economics books you want to find how much consumers lose on depreciation of automobiles.  GOOD LUCK!  That is why I decided to read Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix after I saw the movie.  It had a teacher deliberately not teaching for political reasons and I wanted to see if more details were in the book.

My point is that some good SF is better than school and the text books.

For an SF story with economics try:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/20727&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Cosmic Computer by H. Beam Piper&lt;/a&gt;

But it is integral to the story it is not a lecture on technology and economics.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>{{{  but there has to be a balance; if I want to learn economics, I go read an economics textbook.  }}}</p>
<p>You think the textbooks have balance?  LOL</p>
<p>The science in the sci-fi books was better in that it put things in perspective.  The story painted the BIG PICTURE and showed where the science and technology fit within that picture.  The science books did not do that.  They went into details about a particular subject far more than the SF book did but it was like knowing how to make a screw and not knowing where it fit into the machine. </p>
<p>The same seems to go for economics though.  You can search all of the economics books you want to find how much consumers lose on depreciation of automobiles.  GOOD LUCK!  That is why I decided to read Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix after I saw the movie.  It had a teacher deliberately not teaching for political reasons and I wanted to see if more details were in the book.</p>
<p>My point is that some good SF is better than school and the text books.</p>
<p>For an SF story with economics try:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/20727" rel="nofollow">The Cosmic Computer by H. Beam Piper</a></p>
<p>But it is integral to the story it is not a lecture on technology and economics.<br />
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		<title>By: Paul Raven</title>
		<link>http://www.velcro-city.co.uk/does-science-fiction-have-a-social-function/comment-page-1/#comment-154813</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is that you can&#039;t make people read what they don&#039;t want to read; and the fact of the matter is that didactic &#039;hard&#039; sf turns all but a select core group of readers right off. I don&#039;t mind some science in with my serving of story, but there has to be a balance; if I want to learn economics, I go read an economics textbook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is that you can&#8217;t make people read what they don&#8217;t want to read; and the fact of the matter is that didactic &#8216;hard&#8217; sf turns all but a select core group of readers right off. I don&#8217;t mind some science in with my serving of story, but there has to be a balance; if I want to learn economics, I go read an economics textbook.</p>
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		<title>By: psikeyhackr</title>
		<link>http://www.velcro-city.co.uk/does-science-fiction-have-a-social-function/comment-page-1/#comment-154810</link>
		<dc:creator>psikeyhackr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are the readers and viewers and especially critics failing science fiction?  But there can be other factors contributing to that failure.  Is the current gloominess the result of mankind failing to see the future for the last 30 years?  We focus on the fun stuff and ignore that 700 year old accounting. LOL

Maybe our educational system contains too many Stalinistic personalities.

&quot;Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don&#039;t let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are the readers and viewers and especially critics failing science fiction?  But there can be other factors contributing to that failure.  Is the current gloominess the result of mankind failing to see the future for the last 30 years?  We focus on the fun stuff and ignore that 700 year old accounting. LOL</p>
<p>Maybe our educational system contains too many Stalinistic personalities.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don&#8217;t let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?&#8221;</p>
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