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	<title>Comments on: Greed, entitlement and fan-fic; two questions for A. R. Yngve</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the candid response!

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I think I’d be happier burning my manuscripts. Much, much happier.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, I think that&#039;s a shame. But I stand by my point above; if you&#039;re really unwilling to let your characters out into the world and into the hearts and minds of readers, you probably shouldn&#039;t be writing at all. Same as a band who aren&#039;t willing to accept that young kids might bash out bad covers; if it bothers you, make sure no one ever hears your stuff.

I agree that fanfic (at least that of it which I have encountered) is pretty dreadful, but that&#039;s not the point. The point is it&#039;s done out of love of the originals. If you can&#039;t live with your work being loved, no matter how messily, you&#039;d best fetch the brazier and do as you suggest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the candid response!</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I think I’d be happier burning my manuscripts. Much, much happier.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, I think that&#8217;s a shame. But I stand by my point above; if you&#8217;re really unwilling to let your characters out into the world and into the hearts and minds of readers, you probably shouldn&#8217;t be writing at all. Same as a band who aren&#8217;t willing to accept that young kids might bash out bad covers; if it bothers you, make sure no one ever hears your stuff.</p>
<p>I agree that fanfic (at least that of it which I have encountered) is pretty dreadful, but that&#8217;s not the point. The point is it&#8217;s done out of love of the originals. If you can&#8217;t live with your work being loved, no matter how messily, you&#8217;d best fetch the brazier and do as you suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loathe fanfiction. Hate it with the fury of a thousand suns. It&#039;s absurd how strong my antipathy is, because I&#039;m not an author, don&#039;t write fanfic, and have no personal stake in the debate whatsoever. It doesn&#039;t do *me* any harm (or good); it&#039;s irrational that I should care. But I do.

If you are a good writer, in my view, you ought to be writing something new and wholly your own; and if you aren&#039;t, then you&#039;re embarrassing yourself and the author by trying to puppet someone else&#039;s creations. It&#039;s much more personal than covering someone else&#039;s song, I think. It&#039;s more like trying to wear their clothes, imitate their voices, wear their perfumes. Embarrassing for all concerned, if not outright creepy.

Would you write &quot;fanfiction&quot; involving real people under real names in real life, without their permission? No. Because it would be unutterably presumptuous to pretend you knew them that well, and quite a lot of them would be insulted. I feel it&#039;s much the same with using other people&#039;s characters. They aren&#039;t yours; you don&#039;t know them; you can&#039;t possibly do them right, so don&#039;t use them. To me, it&#039;s that simple.

And, of course, it doesn&#039;t help that so much fanfiction is poorly written porn. If *I* were an author, and my lovingly written characters were being used in semi-literate slash porn... I think I&#039;d be happier burning my manuscripts. Much, much happier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loathe fanfiction. Hate it with the fury of a thousand suns. It&#8217;s absurd how strong my antipathy is, because I&#8217;m not an author, don&#8217;t write fanfic, and have no personal stake in the debate whatsoever. It doesn&#8217;t do *me* any harm (or good); it&#8217;s irrational that I should care. But I do.</p>
<p>If you are a good writer, in my view, you ought to be writing something new and wholly your own; and if you aren&#8217;t, then you&#8217;re embarrassing yourself and the author by trying to puppet someone else&#8217;s creations. It&#8217;s much more personal than covering someone else&#8217;s song, I think. It&#8217;s more like trying to wear their clothes, imitate their voices, wear their perfumes. Embarrassing for all concerned, if not outright creepy.</p>
<p>Would you write &#8220;fanfiction&#8221; involving real people under real names in real life, without their permission? No. Because it would be unutterably presumptuous to pretend you knew them that well, and quite a lot of them would be insulted. I feel it&#8217;s much the same with using other people&#8217;s characters. They aren&#8217;t yours; you don&#8217;t know them; you can&#8217;t possibly do them right, so don&#8217;t use them. To me, it&#8217;s that simple.</p>
<p>And, of course, it doesn&#8217;t help that so much fanfiction is poorly written porn. If *I* were an author, and my lovingly written characters were being used in semi-literate slash porn&#8230; I think I&#8217;d be happier burning my manuscripts. Much, much happier.</p>
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		<title>By: JeremyT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeremyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 21:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have nothing to add.  Great, great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing to add.  Great, great post.</p>
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