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	<title>Comments on: Science fiction, sub-genres and the consensus of definitions</title>
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	<description>Science fiction, science fact, and all that's in between ...</description>
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		<title>By: psikeyhackr</title>
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		<dc:creator>psikeyhackr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that is partially true.

Another part of the problem is the term science fiction has gotten corrupted and stuff that ain&#039;t is called that these days.  The producers of Star Wars admitted that it was not sci-fi back in 77.  There is a TIME magazine article where they state it.  But how many people think that today?  Star Wars fans get insulted if you tell them it ain&#039;t SF.

But movies and television are more expensive than magazines and novels so they need to attract big audiences.  If the SF is too intellectually sophisticated and the bump in the bell curve drops out then how can AVATAR make 2 billion dollars?  2001: A Space Odyssey got panned by the critics back in &#039;68.  Rock Hudson said it made no sense.  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that is partially true.</p>
<p>Another part of the problem is the term science fiction has gotten corrupted and stuff that ain&#8217;t is called that these days.  The producers of Star Wars admitted that it was not sci-fi back in 77.  There is a TIME magazine article where they state it.  But how many people think that today?  Star Wars fans get insulted if you tell them it ain&#8217;t SF.</p>
<p>But movies and television are more expensive than magazines and novels so they need to attract big audiences.  If the SF is too intellectually sophisticated and the bump in the bell curve drops out then how can AVATAR make 2 billion dollars?  2001: A Space Odyssey got panned by the critics back in &#8217;68.  Rock Hudson said it made no sense.  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Cramer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn Cramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Consensus is morbidity.&lt;/i&gt;

I like that, and I think it&#039;s basically true. I view genres mostly as a form of literary game defined by the players own moves. If true and stable consensus is reached, the game is over. 

Genre, to me, is a transaction between writers and audiences, which is often confused with the related notion of marketing category, which is a transaction between publishers &amp; distribution systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Consensus is morbidity.</i></p>
<p>I like that, and I think it&#8217;s basically true. I view genres mostly as a form of literary game defined by the players own moves. If true and stable consensus is reached, the game is over. </p>
<p>Genre, to me, is a transaction between writers and audiences, which is often confused with the related notion of marketing category, which is a transaction between publishers &amp; distribution systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Sales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Sales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure I like the cityscape metaphor - it implies that sub-genres of sf are only sf through an accident of geography. Or is someone going to claim that one city is thematically distinct from every other?

I had a bash at a more generic definition (no pun intended) here: http://justhastobeplausible.blogspot.com/2007/07/what-im-pointing-to.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure I like the cityscape metaphor &#8211; it implies that sub-genres of sf are only sf through an accident of geography. Or is someone going to claim that one city is thematically distinct from every other?</p>
<p>I had a bash at a more generic definition (no pun intended) here: <a href="http://justhastobeplausible.blogspot.com/2007/07/what-im-pointing-to.html" rel="nofollow">http://justhastobeplausible.blogspot.com/2007/07/what-im-pointing-to.html</a></p>
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