Both parts of my long chat about narrative with Bella and Bianca of BLoW.institute, recorded late last year, are now available for listening as episodes of their Without Judgement podcast.

(These links—to part one and part two—are for Sp*tify, as that’s where they’re hosted—but I presume that, given podcasting was built atop the RSS protocol, you can probably find them via whatever means you usually find podcasts, if indeed finding podcasts is something you usually do. If it is, you’ll probably know how best to do it.)

And while I’m mentioning podcasts, those of you who aren’t following along with my doings at Worldbuilding Agency may not have heard that I also spent a very agreeable couple of hours talking at to Edward Rathke about Bill Gibson and Bruce Sterling’s The Difference Engine.